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2022–3 Season
Week 14

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News and Views: 2022–3 Season, Week 14 – 14 March 2023

Topic for discussion

Following some confusion over the scoring in one of the games in Week 12, it has been suggested that match scores should maybe be confirmed and agreed after every round. There is a thread on the forum to discuss this, and the plan is to raise the topic at the AGM in the Autumn. Please have a look, and be prepared to vote when the time comes – if not to comment in the meantime!

After logging in to the Forum, click Post Here (even if you don't want to post anything) and then open the thread called 'Checking the scores'.

Week 14 Results

Once again there were some very close games this week, with five of the seven being won by 12 points or fewer. Closest of all was the Poachers' victory over the Waters Green Weavers, by 162 points to 160.

Top played bottom in the B League, and the Chester Road Tavern came within nine points of pulling off a major shock. But it wasn't to be, and the Dolphin Hammers remain unbeaten with only three games to play.

Tables

In the A League second played third, and the Queens (previously second on goal difference only) just managed to shade it to go ahead of the Dolphin on points. At the other end of the table, the Harrington Academicals scored a handsome victory over the Nags Head (missing their captain, I believe) to open up a four–point gap between themselves and the relegation zone.

A defeat for the Sutton Club at the hands of the Park Taverners means that the Hammers are assured of promotion, as only the Waters Green Nags can now catch them.

Individual

Top scorer this week was Ian Grieve with 48. There were only two other scores in the 40s – Alan Hodgson and Haydn Thompson each scoring 45. In the B League, three players scored 39: Karl Burgess, Dave Cooper and Anne Jeater.

There were only eight personal bests – three in the A League and five in the B League. But only seven people failed to beat their lowest scores of the season – two in the A and five in the B. Interestingly, the two in the A League were Alice Walker and Ashton Davies!

Very little movement in the A League table this week, but in the B League, Liz Horrocks took advantage of Shauna Barstow having already played her scoring quota and Wynne Keith–Davies not playing, to move up from fifth to third. Although having now played twelve games herself, Liz will have to go some to catch either Dave Barber or Paul Prior.

Questions

The Sutton Mutton's Specialist questions, which had an overall boozy theme, scored better all round than the General Knowledge. Overall, the Specialists are 8th out of 24 and the General Knowledge are 21st.

A quiet week on the Forum, and no major gripes, although one person has suggested that there may have been a bias towards the teams that started second. This is borne out by the spreadsheet, and by the fact that five of the seven games were won by those teams.

A League

Results

Harrington Academicals 175 124 Nags Head
Dave Partington
Steve Dale (pb)
Rob Parkin
39
36
36
33 Phil Davies
Poachers 162 160 Waters Green Weavers
Ed Baron 39 48
30
30
24
Ian Grieve (pb)
Alan Gilday
Graham Bailey
Adum Carr (pb)
Dolphin 157 164 Queens
Alan Hodgson 45 45 Haydn Thompson

Table

Played Won Drawn Lost Total Points
Poachers 11 9 0 2 1835 18
Queens 11 8 0 3 1865 16
Dolphin 11 7 0 4 1768 14
Waters Green Weavers 11 6 1 4 1746 13
Nags Head 'B' 10 6 1 3 1629 13
Harrington Academicals 11 3 1 7 1706 7
Nags Head 11 1 1 9 1546 3
Harrington Diamonds 10 1 0 9 1337 2

Individual Top Ten

Team Played Total Highest Lowest Week 14
Alan Hodgson Dolphin 11 510 54 39 45
Alice Walker Queens 11 498 57 36 36
Haydn Thompson Queens 11 471 48 27 45
Ashton Davies Poachers 10 450 54 30 30
Dave Partington Harrington Academicals 11 432 48 24 39
Peter McBride Dolphin 11 414 48 27 30
Ian Grieve Waters Green Weavers 11 402 48 24 48
Mark Watson Nags Head 'B' 9 393 52 39  
Graham Bailey Waters Green Weavers 11 387 48 27 30
Ed Baron Poachers 11 354 48 18 39

B League

Results

Sutton Club 128 136 Park Taverners
John Green 30 36 Neil Wall
Chester Road Tavern 138 147 Dolphin Hammers
Karl Burgess (pb)
Bill Moores (pb)
39
30
39 Dave Cooper
Waters Green Nags 127 107 Pack Horse Bowling Club
Paul Prior 33 27 Mary Bloor (pb)
Park Timers 131 125 Plough Horntails
John Poyser (pb) 36 39 Anne Jeater (pb)

Table

Played Won Drawn Lost Total Points
Dolphin Hammers 13 13 0 0 2083 26
Waters Green Nags 12 10 0 2 1752 20
Sutton Club 12 8 0 4 1612 16
Park Taverners 13 7 0 6 1796 14
Plough Horntails 13 7 0 6 1775 14
Park Timers 12 5 0 7 1321 10
Pack Horse Bowling Club 12 3 0 9 1305 6
Sutton Mutton 12 2 0 10 1520 4
Chester Road Tavern 13 1 0 12 1414 2

Individual Top Ten

Team Played Total Highest Lowest Week 14
Paul Prior Waters Green Nags 12 474 48 33 33
Dave Barber Dolphin Hammers 13 423 42 27 30
Liz Horrocks Dolphin Hammers 12 381 42 21 21
Wynne Keith–Davies Sutton Mutton 12 369 42 15  
Shauna Barstow Park Taverners 13 369 39 21 24
Ian Musgrave Waters Green Nags 9 339 48 27  
Graham Wallace Park Taverners 11 324 45 18  
Anne Jeater Plough Horntails 12 321 39 18 39
John Poyser John Poyser 12 300 36 15 36
Reg Bloor Reg Bloor 12 291 39 12 15

Cars & Van 4U Question Setters' Trophy

  Week   Setters Difficulty Balance Ent'ment Total Last Yr
1 1 GK Nags Head 'B' 10.00 8.81 7.85 26.66 21.64
2 10 GK Park Timers 9.14 9.67 6.85 25.67 22.99
3 10 Spec Park Timers 9.76 7.60 7.27 24.63 (—)
4 11 Spec Harrington Academicals 8.18 9.03 7.27 24.48 20.88
5 8 Spec Poachers 5.93 9.98 6.79 22.37 19.68
6 2 Spec Sutton Club 6.65 8.83 6.46 22.27 23.38
7 12 Spec Pack Horse Bowling Club 6.74 8.42 6.75 21.91 15.35
8 14 Spec Sutton Mutton 7.33 8.11 6.21 21.65 (—)
9 1 Spec Nags Head 'B' 10.00 2.93 8.16 21.09 19.80
10 6 GK Dolphin Hammers 4.56 9.84 5.67 20.08 (—)
11 2 GK Sutton Club 3.77 9.93 5.68 19.37 (—)
12 13 Spec Dolphin 6.17 6.43 6.47 19.07 8.13
13 5 Spec Harrington Diamonds 5.53 7.56 5.39 18.48 23.04
14 12 GK Pack Horse Bowling Club 8.76 3.27 6.41 18.44 (—)
15 13 GK Dolphin 3.61 9.19 5.54 18.35 17.80
16 6 Spec Dolphin Hammers 7.38 4.10 6.33 17.81 11.27
17 8 GK Poachers 3.08 8.96 5.77 17.80 7.85
18 3 Spec Queens 6.12 4.40 6.39 16.92 13.29
19 5 GK Harrington Diamonds 3.80 7.86 5.10 16.76 14.09
20 7 GK Nags Head 1.27 8.10 4.72 14.09 13.01
21 14 GK Sutton Mutton 3.22 5.11 4.41 12.74 16.26
22 4 Spec Waters Green Nags 4.92 2.79 4.91 12.62 18.17
23 3 GK Queens 2.68 3.71 6.18 12.57 20.02
24 11 GK Harrington Academicals 3.65 2.42 5.91 11.97 (–)
25 7 Spec Nags Head 2.26 3.11 5.18 10.55 15.87
26 4 GK Waters Green Nags 1.80 0.00 4.54 6.34 23.49
27 9 GK Plough Horntails 0.00 0.58 3.74 4.32 18.45
28 9 Spec Plough Horntails 0.00 0.00 2.50 2.50 (—)

Most teams seem to have found the Sutton Mutton's Specialist questions somewhat easier than the General Knowledge. On average, teams scored 105% of their average marks in the Specialists but only 97% in the General Knowledge.

The teams that started second did better than their opponents – 105% as opposed to 95%. This is reflected in the fact that five of the seven games were won by the teams that started second.

According to the spreadsheet, both sets were biased towards the teams that started second. The apparent bias was more pronounced in the General Knowledge – 103% compared to 90% – while in the Specialists it was 108% and 102%.

So the Specialists were quite a lot easier than the General Knowledge, and better balanced; they were also more popular, scoring 6.21 compared with 4.41 for the GK. This meant that the Specialists scored better all round and just made it into the top third of the table (8th out of 28), while the General Knowledge's position is the exact mirror image: 21st, and just in the bottom third.

For the full spreadsheet, please click here.

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