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| 1991–2 Season |
| A League | B League | C League | D League | Cup | Plate |
Notes from the Committee Meeting:
| 1. | Despite a last minute appeal from the committee the Prince Albert have decided not to play in the B League this year. The B League will be run as an 8 team division. There are two annoying features for the committee. Firstly, nobody from the Albert had the courtesy to make one phone call to tell the committee that they were even thinking of pulling out. Secondly, there are several new teams who wanted to play on the League who could not be accommodated. |
| 2. | The committee will try and arrange friendly games for non-league teams. If anybody knows teams who would like to play on a relatively ad hoc basis please get them to contact an official of the League. |
| 3. | When teams are photocopying sets of questions, can they please ensure that the correct set, i.e. post vetting is copied. One method for this would be to vet on a master copy. |
| 4. | The score for the questions indicates the score for the whole evening, i.e. vetting, general knowledge and specialists. |
| 5. | The treasurer reminds teams that subscriptions are now due. Please contact Graham Bailey [telephone number provided] or Chris May at the Millstone with the mazoomah. |
Highest scores for 22 October 1991 were:
| Chris Richardson | Nags Head 'A' | 45 |
| Gordon Muirhead | Nags Head 'B' | 45 |
| Peter Cole | CAP | 36 |
| Tim Hepworth | Sema | 36 |
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater 'A' | 36 |
| Nick Cooper | St. Dunstan | 36 |
| Haydn Thompson | Chestergate | 33 |
| Dave McAlister | Franklin 'A' | 33 |
| Stuart Mills | Harrington 'A' | 30 |
| Steve Haslam | Chester Road Tavern 'B' | 30 |
| John Knight | Castle 'A' | 30 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 30 |
| Sue Johnson | Nags Head 'A' | 30 |
No big surprises in the first games of the season, with the Nags Head 'A' continuing on as they left off last season.
The questions for 22 October 1991 were awarded marks as follows:
| A League | 5.25 |
| B League | 6.00 |
| C League | 4.71 |
| D League | 4.71 |
| E League | 5.63 |
| Trophy Score | 5.26 |
The editor has promised not to make any comments about the surprising results last week. However Sema's win over George I was quite surprising.
| 1. | Sema are now playing their home league games at the Millstone, Waters Green, not the Butley Ash. Apologies to all teams concerned for the change. |
| 2. | The committee occasionally sanctions changes in venues and dates because of extraordinary events. However, all requests must be lodged with Nick Dennis the Fixtures Secretary [telephone number provided]. We had a communications problem involving the Rugby Club. The committee wishes to apologise to the St. Dunstan for any inconvenience caused. |
The marks for the questions on the 29 October 1991 were as follows:
| A League Average | 3.88 |
| B League Average | 3.33 |
| C League Average | 1.88 |
| D League Average | 3.14 |
| E League Average | 3.50 |
| Trophy Score | 3.15 |
| Season Average | 4.20 |
Highest scores for 22 October 1991 were:
| Alasdair Reid | Sema | 36 |
| Robin Morrell | YPU | 36 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 30 |
| Nick Dennis | Millstone | 30 |
| John Knight | Castle 'A' | 27 |
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater | 27 |
| John Brown | Rugby Club | 27 |
| Peter Cole | CAP | 27 |
| Paul Morrissey | Rugby Club | 24 |
| Guy Barstow | Prince of Wales | 24 |
| Geoff Whitney | Weavers | 24 |
| Dave Higginbotham | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 24 |
| Chris McKiernan | Beehive | 24 |
| John Quilliam | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 24 |
There were fairly mixed views about the questions this week, including an obscene comment from one team. Well done lads, that was really helpful. High scores indicate the questions were easier than some, but as to the enjoyment.
N.B. There will be a committee meeting on the 24th November at the Millstone at 8:00 p.m. for the draw of the second round of the Cup. We will also discuss the question experiment and its progress to date.
The marks for the questions on 5 November 1991 were as follows:
| A League Average | 5.88 |
| B League Average | 5.00 |
| C League Average | 5.25 |
| D League Average | 5.13 |
| E League Average | 6.86 |
| Trophy Score | 5.62 |
| Season Average | 4.68 |
The teams involved were:
| Specialists: | George & Dragon (Sunderland St.) |
| General Knowledge: | Weavers |
| Organisers: | Chestergate |
Highest scores on 5 November 1991 were:
| Nick Dennis | Millstone | 51 |
| John Burgess | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 42 |
| Chris Richardson | Nags Head 'A' | 42 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 42 |
| Bernard McLoughlin | Harrington 'A' | 42 |
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater | 39 |
| Phil Parker | Beehive | 39 |
| Paul Prior | Sema | 39 |
| Irene Graves | Millstone | 39 |
There are now only six teams with a 100% record in all five divisions. There was a close game in the E League where the George & Dragon (Rainow Road) maintained their undeaten record with a one–point win over the George II.
The score for the game between the Bridgewater and the Nags Head 'A' played on 5 November has been reversed. The captains signed the sheet as a win for the Bridgewater; however closer inspection showed that the scores had been reversed. Could captains be sure to check the arithmetic before they sign. The Secretary does not check the figures! You have been warned!
The questions for 12 November 1991 were set by the St. Dunstan and Church House 'B', and vetted by Chester Road Tavern 'A'. Their marks were:
| A League Average | 6.63 |
| B League Average | 5.00 |
| C League Average | 4.88 |
| D League Average | 5.86 |
| E League Average | 4.88 |
| Trophy Score | 5.45 |
| Season Average | 4.87 |
Highest scores for 12 November 1991 were:
| Robin Morrell | YPU | 45 |
| Nick Dennis | Millstone | 45 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 42 |
| Jeff Gallagher | Rising Sun 'B' | 42 |
| Julian Amey | Rugby Club | 42 |
| Graham Bailey | Lamb 'A' | 39 |
| Jeff Corry | Castle 'A' | 39 |
| Nick Traynor | Chestergate | 39 |
| Peter Cole | CAP | 36 |
| Alasdair Reid | Sema | 36 |
| John Knight | Castle 'A' | 36 |
Unusually there were two games that needed a tie–break to decide them in the first round of the Cup. Don't bet against a Millstone team winning the Plate. Three teams from the Millstone were in the first round of the Cup and three teams lost. Terrible shame.
A couple more 100% records went this week, although the Castle are still top of the heap in the A League.
Note: Score sheets are invariably separate from the question envelopes. The score sheet pack contains important information each week.
Score sheet packs are only guaranteed to be available from 7:30 on Tuesday night. Please do not call for them earlier.
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE QUESTION ENVELOPES WITHOUT SCORE SHEETS.
Thank you. End of sermon!
The marks for the questions set on 26 November 1991 were:
| A League Average | 5.67 |
| B League Average | 5.67 |
| C League Average | 5.00 |
| D League Average | 5.88 |
| E League Average | 4.13 |
| Trophy Score | 5.25 |
| Season Average | 4.94 |
Highest scores for 26 November 1991 were:
| John Knight | Castle 'A' | 45 |
| Steve Carr | Softies | 39 |
| Helen Laurence | Weavers | 36 |
| John Brown | Rugby Club | 36 |
| Haydn Thompson | Chestergate | 36 |
| Nick Dennis | Millstone | 36 |
| Peter Cole | CAP | 36 |
| Steve Thorpe | Softies | 33 |
| David Whitworth | St. Dunstan | 33 |
| Alice Walker | Chestergate | 33 |
| Liz Horrocks | Butley Ash | 33 |
In their first defeat of the season, Castle 'A' were well beaten by the Millstone. Elsewhere in the League there were many close results, with eighht matches being decided by less than ten points. Sema just preserved their 100% record with a two–point win over the Prince of Wales.
The questions for 3 December 1991 were set by the Woodman and Franklin 'B', and organised by the Nags Head 'A'. Their marks were:
| A League Average | 5.75 |
| B League Average | 4.13 |
| C League Average | 3.38 |
| D League Average | 4.86 |
| E League Average | 3.83 |
| Trophy Score | 4.39 |
| Season Average | 4.85 |
Highest scores for 3 December 1991 were:
| Irene Graves | Millstone | 45 |
| Graham Bailey | Lamb 'A' | 42 |
| Helen Laurence | Weavers | 39 |
| Jeff Corry | Castle 'A' | 39 |
| Liz Horrocks | Butley Ash | 36 |
| Alan Hodgson | Bridgewater | 36 |
| Graham Holt | George I | 36 |
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater | 36 |
| David Henshall | George I | 36 |
So now there are only two teams with a 100% record: Sema in the C League and Harrington 'A' in the D.
As a member of the team vetting the questions last week, I'm taking advantage of my position to give a personal view of the questions. I have not discussed this with the teams concerned, so apologies to them in advance.
The specialiost rounds were too obscure. They had the feel of being done by one person who had not checked them with the other members of the team. This is very bad practice as the one person cannot give any objective as to the hardness or, more important, the obscurity of the questions. The committee does recommend trying questions out on the remainder of your team for that very reason.
The general knowledge were of a more enjoyable standard. There were som every good questions in theere. However, there were too many stock questions. With this I would ask yourself whether you would object if the opposing team were to be given this question. There is a place for standard questions, but there were too many in this set.
Neither of these criticisms gives any constructive guidance as to how we should handle the question setting for the League. This is a critical question and all contributions would be welcome.
The Specialist rounds were set by the Beehive, the Gernal Knowledge by Chester Road Tavern 'B', and the questions were vetted and organised by CAP. Their marks were:
| A League Average | 5.50 |
| B League Average | 5.00 |
| C League Average | 3.00 |
| D League Average | 4.25 |
| E League Average | 2.88 |
| Trophy Score | 4.13 |
| Season Average | 4.75 |
No personal scores this week (pressure of work).
For the second week running, there were many comments made about the questions, and in particular the Specialist Rounds. These ranged from "So you thought last week's specialist rounds were obscure" to "The specialist rounds were hopeless". I will print good comments if they arise or any comments back from the question setters. It is not an easy task and it [is] not my role to criticise unduly. However, comments have been made. I would once again advise question setters to read the advice doled out at the beginning of the season, it makes reasonable sense.
Other comments have been made about the scoring of the questions. For this season, we have no alternative to just providing one set of marks. It would be unfair and difficult to change now. This may be changed for next year. Thanks again for your comments.
The questions for 17 December 1991 were set by Macc CC (Specialist), Harrington 'B' (General Knowledge) and vetted by Castle 'A'. Their marks were:
| A League Average | 5.38 |
| B League Average | 3.5 |
| C League Average | 2.5 |
| D League Average | 3.13 |
| E League Average | 2.63 |
| Trophy Score | 3.43 |
| Season Average | 4.58 |
Highest scores on 17 December 1991 were:
| Tony Best | Nags Head 'A' | 39 |
| Graham Bailey | Lamb 'A' | 39 |
| Irene Graves | Millstone | 36 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 36 |
| Robin Morrell | YPU | 36 |
| Alan Rudden | Bridgewater | 36 |
| Chris Hindmarch | CAP | 33 |
| Bernard Tozer | George I | 30 |
| Ken Allen | Church House 'A' | 30 |
Personal bests for the Season scored on the 10th and 17th of December 1991 were:
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater | 39 |
| Bernard Tozer | George I | 30 |
| Dave Thompson | Lord Byron | 27 |
| Andy Stone | Lamb 'B' | 27 |
| Steve Higginbotham | Butley Ash | 27 |
| Bob Langstaff | George I | 27 |
| Tony Wilkinson | Rising Sun 'A' | 24 |
| Guy Barstow | Prince of Wales | 24 |
| Neil Drummond | Weavers | 24 |
| Bill Brown | Parkside Social | 24 |
| Campbell Montgomery | Church House 'B' | 24 |
| Geoff Parkin | Harrington 'B' | 24 |
| Peter Cummins | St. Dunstan | 24 |
| Robert Kennerley | Harrington 'A' | 24 |
| Chris Hacking | Millstone | 21 |
| Nick MAnnion | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 21 |
| Davd Haigh | Sema | 21 |
| Pete Sayers | YPU | 21 |
| Jo Browne | YPU | 18 |
| Louise Fanfarillo | Woodman | 18 |
| Neil Johnson | Parkside Social | 18 |
| Dave Holmes | Church House 'B' | 18 |
| Brian Thompson | Softies | 18 |
| Ainslee O'Neill | Boarhound 'A' | 18 |
| Sarah Swindells | George II | 15 |
There will be a committee meeting on the Sunday after the next Cup game, at 8:00 p.m. at the Millstone.
Highest scores for on 7 January 1992 were:
| Steve Haslam | Chester Road Tavern 'B' | 33 |
| Alan Hodgson | Bridgewater | 33 |
| Nick Dennis | Millstone | 33 |
| Nick Cooper | St. Dunstan | 33 |
| Chris Hindmarch | CAP | 30 |
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater | 30 |
| Alice Walker | Chestergate | 27 |
| John Knight | Castle 'A' | 27 |
| Dave Higginbotham | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 27 |
| Steve Thorpe | Softies | 27 |
| John Burgess | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 27 |
| Gordon Muirhead | Nags Head 'B' | 27 |
Personal bests for the Season scored on 7 January 1992 were:
| Steve Haslam | Chester Road Tavern 'B' | 33 |
| Dave Higginbotham | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 27 |
| Bill Brown | Parkside Social | 24 |
| Alan Hollinshead | Castle 'A' | 24 |
| Louise Fanfarillo | Woodman | 21 |
| Dave Haigh | Sema | 21 |
| John Simpson | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 15 |
| Chris Wood | Boarhound 'A' | 15 |
The Cup results went well for the higher clubs in the League. There are still eight A League and four B League teams left in the last 16 of the Cup. Consequently there is only one A League team in the Plate.
There were many close games in the league this week with seven games being decided by less than ten points. Harrington 'A' and Sema both retain their 100% records, with the Harrington beating their close rivals Franklin 'B'.
Personal scores will be resumed in two weeks' time.
There will be a special committee meeting very soon to discuss next year's AGM and the second annual Charity quiz. Keep your diaries open in anticipation.
The questions for 28 January 1992 [Week 11] were set by Rising Sun 'B' and Harrington 'A', and vetted by Castle-Softies. Their marks are in the first column below. The questions for 21 January [Week 10] were set by Prince of Wales and the Millstone, and vetted by Lamb 'B'. Their marks are in the second column.
| A League Average | 5.89 | 5.75 |
| B League Average | 5.67 | 4.00 |
| C League Average | 4.67 | 4.13 |
| D League Average | 4.86 | 4.57 |
| E League Average | 4.88 | 3.86 |
| Trophy Score | 5.19 | 4.46 |
| Season Average | 4.61 | 4.67 |
Highest scores for 21st and 28th January 1992 were:
| Andy Stone | Lamb 'B' | 42 |
| Steve Haslam | Chester Road Tavern 'B' | 42 |
| Alasdair Reid | Sema | 39 |
| Nick Dennis | Millstone | 39 |
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater | 36 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 36 |
| Nick Traynor | Chestergate | 36 |
| Chris McKiernan | Beehive | 36 |
| Graham Bailey | Lamb 'A' | 33 |
| Alan Hodgson | Bridgewater | 33 |
| Patrick Booth | Lamb 'A' | 33 |
| Haydn Thompson | Chestergate | 33 |
| Chris Hindmarch | CAP | 33 |
| Chris Richardson | Nags Head 'A' | 33 |
Personal bests for the Season scored on 21st and 28th January 1992 were:
| Andy Stone | Lamb 'B' | 42 |
| Steve Haslam | Chester Road Tavern 'B' | 42 |
| Alasdair Reid | Sema | 39 |
| Chris McKiernan | Beehive | 36 |
| Chris Hindmarch | CAP | 33 |
| Patrick Booth | Lamb 'A' | 33 |
| Dave Higginbotham | Chester Road Tavern 'A' | 30 |
| Bob Langstaff | George I | 30 |
| Alan Schultz | Lamb 'A' | 30 |
| Kevin Goulden | Nags Head 'B' | 27 |
| Neil Drummond | Weavers | 24 |
| Peter Bowler | Millstone | 24 |
| Trevor Goodey | Lamb 'B' | 24 |
| Ainslee O'Neill | Bears Head 'A' | 21 |
| Roger Avery | Brewers | 21 |
| Dave Robinson | Rugby Club | 21 |
| Louise Fanfarillo | Woodman | 21 |
Congratulations to the Chestergate, YPU and the Weavers: their questions last week were the first set to score more than six points for the CAP Trophy. There was an upset in the A League when the unlucky Millstone lost in the League to CAP. Well, I have to report it.
N.B.: The draw for the quarter–finals of the Cup and Plate competitions will be 10:30 p.m. at the Millstone on 25th February. Please ensure scoresheets are returned by this time. All are welcome.
And then there was one. The Harrington 'A' lost their 100% record this week and now Sema are the only perfect team (sic). The questions, specifically the general knowledge questions, were not liked. See below for more details.
The two weeks' scores shown here indicate two very different appreciations for the questions. The column on the right is for the questions on 11 February 1992 [Week 12], set by Weavers, Chestergate and YPU. They are leading the race for the CAP Trophy and are the only team to have scored over 6. The left column is for the questions on 18 February 1992 [Week 13]. These were set by Church House 'B', Chester Road Tavern 'A' and Boarhound 'A'. They were not liked – the second least popular [of the season so far]. The General Knowledge questions were particularly disliked. You will noticve that the scores were least in the lower leagues, in spite of the stated attempt made by the setters of the General Knowledge to appeal to the lower leagues by setting 'trivia questions'.
| A League Average | 4.00 | 7.25 |
| B League Average | 3.67 | 5.57 |
| C League Average | 2.63 | 6.25 |
| D League Average | 3.25 | 6.00 |
| E League Average | 3.25 | 5.50 |
| Trophy Score | 3.36 | 6.11 |
| Season Average | 4.65 | 4.77 |
Highest scores for 18 February 1992 were:
| Graham Bailey | Lamb 'A' | 42 |
| Jeff Gallagher | Rising Sun 'B' | 36 |
| Paul Prior | Sema | 36 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 33 |
| Steve Higginbotham | Butley Ash | 33 |
| John Knight | Castle 'A' | 33 |
| Philip Green | Woodman | 33 |
| Robin Morrell | YPU | 33 |
| Steve Mottram | YPU | 30 |
| Helen Laurence | Weavers | 30 |
| Chris Hindmarch | CAP | 30 |
| Julian Amey | Rugby Club | 30 |
| Mike Horner | Solos | 30 |
| Mike Fanfarillo | Woodman | 30 |
Personal bests for the Season scored on 18 February 1992 were:
| Graham Bailey | Lamb 'A' | 42 |
| Steve Higginbotham | Butley Ash | 33 |
| Philip Green | Woodman | 33 |
| Steve Mottram | YPU | 30 |
| Mike Fanfarillo | Woodman | 30 |
| Dave Robinson | Rugby Club | 27 |
| Neil Drummond | Weavers | 27 |
| Tony Gronert | George & Dragon (R) | 24 |
| Bob Bratton | Church House 'A' | 24 |
| Carol Reid | Sema | 21 |
| Mark Wilson | George & Dragon (S) | 21 |
| Andrew Twyford | George I | 21 |
We are now in the home stretch; three champions have been decided. With two weeks to go there are three champions, four promotion places and five relegation places to be decided.
Please fill in your section of the score sheet with your details for the next year. Please also read the notice on the special committee meeting this Sunday about next season. Your attendance would be very welcome.
A note on the personal score tables. Awards are given to those people finishing in the top ten of each division. Only the best 12 scores out of a possible 16 cound for each person. The tables show the following:
| • | Games played |
| • | Total – your best twelve marks |
| • | Highest – Your highest score in the season |
| • | Lowest – your lowest counting score, i.e. if you have played more than 12 games your 12th best score |
| • | Week 18 – your score on the night in question |
I hope this has cleared up any confusion that may have arisen, where people do not think they have been credited with their correct score.
The questions on the 24th and 31st March [Weeks 16 and 17] were in general well received. Maybe wimmen's questions on sex would be a real winner. The questions on 24 March [Week 16] were set by Beehive, CAP and Church House 'A', their marks are in the right hand column. The questions on 31 March [Week 17] were set by Castle 'A', Sema and Rising Sun 'A'. Their marks are in the left hand column.
| 31 March | 24 March | |
| A League Average | 6.63 | 7.00 |
| B League Average | 5.67 | 6.50 |
| B League Average | 5.75 | 5.25 |
| D League Average | 6.75 | 5.25 |
| E League Average | 4.13 | 6.13 |
| Trophy Score | 5.78 | 6.03 |
| Season Average | 4.85 | 4.79 |
| Alan Levitt | Nags Head 'A' | 51 |
| Paul Prior | Sema | 45 |
| Tony Best | Nags Head 'A' | 45 |
| Steve Mottram | YPU | 42 |
| Gordon Muirhead | Nahs Head 'B' | 42 |
| Peter McBride | Bridgewater | 42 |
| Robin Morrell | YPU | 42 |
| Irene Graves | Millstone | 42 |
| Haydn Thompson | Chestergate | 42 |
| Jeff Corry | Castle 'A' | 42 |
| Nick Dennis | Millstone | 42 |
| Mike Horner | Softies | 42 |
| Barbara Worth | Franklin 'A' | 39 |
| Peter Cole | CAP | 39 |
| John Hargreaves | Brewers | 39 |
| Peter Cummins | St. Dunstan | 36 |
| Alice Walker | Chestergate | 36 |
| Liz Horrocks | Butley Ash | 36 |
| Geoff Whitney | Weavers | 36 |
| Bob Langstaff | George I | 33 |
| Chris Wood | Boarhound 'A' | 33 |
| John Keenan | Sema | 33 |
| Keith Dobson | Franklin 'A' | 33 |
| Mark Wilson | George & Dragon (S) | 33 |
| Dave McAllister | Franklin 'A' | 33 |
| Tony Wilkinson | Rising Sun 'A' | 33 |
| Patrick Booth | Lamb 'A' | 33 |
| Gloria Penman | George II | 33 |
| Stuart Mills | Harrington 'A' | 30 |
| John White | Rising Sun 'B' | 30 |
| Andy Johnson | Church House 'B' | 30 |
| Linda Mitchell | Church House 'B' | 30 |
| Dave Pennington | Church House 'B' | 30 |
| Peter Bowler | Millstone | 30 |
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